Edwin Valero Shows More Dimensions Than One To Stop Antonio DeMarco; Other Saturday Results
Written by Tim Starks   
Saturday, 06 February 2010 23:34

It was a fallacy to think lightweight sensation Edwin Valero was a one-dimensional puncher, which isn't the same as saying he's a master craftsman in the ring. But he showed off every skill he has Saturday on Showtime in beating up young Antonio DeMarco and forcing his corner to call a halt to it at the conclusion of the 9th round.

It's the punching power that always stands out in Valero's game, but what caught my eye was his exceptional defense. I'd said before the fight that Valero looks vulnerable and wild at times, but I also noted that he's really good at controlling distance and has nice reflexes on D. If Valero fights like this every time out -- and there's no guarantee he does, because even he acknowledged this was his best performance -- I go from being dubious that any lightweight in the world beats him to damn-near certain.

A recap of the fight, followed by a continually-updating list of other Saturday night results:

EDWIN VALERO-ANTONIO DEMARCO

Early on, it looked like the unlikeliest of results -- a Valero win by decision -- was the most feasible outcome. Valero was boxing smartly, and DeMarco wasn't getting off. But DeMarco also was taking Valero's punches well, and Valero was being patient in seeking out his opportunities. If DeMarco was to lose, at least he'd have the honor of being the one who stopped Valero's career-long knockout streak at 26.

It wasn't to be. The only round I had DeMarco winning was the 2nd, but he was deducted a point under the WBC's idiotic accidental foul rule, as DeMarco opened up a big gash on Valero's head because of an elbow. Valero, though, has fought through nasty cuts before, a trait that remains rare in the sport. DeMarco worked his jab well in that round and slugged out Valero's mouthpiece at one point.

But there wasn't much else for DeMarco. There was the jab connecting periodically, and there were a couple right hands in the 6th that had Valero tying up, and there was the occasional overhand left. And Valero looked the worse for wear of the two, with a bloody nose and two cuts around his right eye caused by punches. The rest of the time it was all Valero. He would step in, force DeMarco back on his heels, connect with some straight lefts or left hooks, maybe even flurry with both hands, and then be out of range by the time DeMarco mounted return fire. His footwork was really quite beautiful. His punches weren't as sloppy as usual.

By the end of the 8th, with Valero increasingly stepping up his attack and DeMarco trying to do the same to no avail, DeMarco looked completely dispirited. He didn't answer when his trainer asked him several times if he wanted to continue, but he did say he was OK. He took another beating in the 9th and that's when his corner stopped it.

DeMarco has nothing to be ashamed of -- he just got beaten by a better fighter. Maybe he made the mistake of "fighting small" and bending down rather than taking advantage of his height, but I don't think it would have made a difference. At just 24, I bet he'll bounce back just fine and the corner's wise stoppage kept him from taking unnecessary punishment. He was clearly losing, even without the benefit of knowing as such because of the WBC's stupid open scoring (and even though Showtime's panel of journalists scoring the fight had a terrible night, thinking this fight and the undercard fight were so damn close).

Valero's time, though, is now. If he can keep his nose clean outside the ring, given his troubles in that regard, and stay consistent -- like I said, he is too good for this crop of lightweights. The Venezuelan is an exciting and talented fighter, and it would be great to see him on Showtime and HBO more often. If he feels like sticking around lightweight, he can make entertaining fights with the likes of Ali Funeka and Michael Katsidis. If he feels like moving up to junior welterweight, I salivate at the idea of him taking on Marcos Maidana in a power-punchfest.

Other results:

  • On the Showtime undercard, welterweights Carlos Abregu and Richard Gutierrez waged an entertaining fight that Abregu won by 10-round unanimous decision. Abregu is just a drama machine. He suffered a knockdown in the 2nd, then scored a return knockdown in the 3rd. It seems like every fight he's in trouble then rallying. Abregu largely controlled the fight by using his height and landing a lot of thudding right hooks around Gutierrez' gloves, but Gutierrez had his moments with his right hook. Abregu showed some small signs of improvement, like with his defense, movement and combination punching, but he's still not convincing as a top 10-worthy welter. Who gives a damn, though? Just put him on TV and wait for something crazy to happen. One more note: The judges accurately scored it by a convincing margin for Abregu, but the open scoring system meant Abregu knew he was far ahead and as such largely ran away from Gutierrez for the last two rounds. Open scoring must die.
  • In New Jersey on a card broadcast in the United States via GoFightLive, Tomasz Adamek defeated Jason Estrada by 12-round unanimous decision in his second appearance as a heavyweight. I think Estrada might be better than people think, but I do wonder how Adamek's defeat of Estrada compared to Alexander Povetkin's. Adamek is in line for an April 24 fight against Chris Arreola in what would be a big step up in the division, and how his struggles with Estrada compared to Povetkin's could be informative. TQBR contributor Scott Kraus will give us the details on this card, he tells me, as he planned to attend live. But if you want to risk getting a computer virus, you can read BoxingScene's account here to hold you over.
  • On the undercard of Adamek-Estrada, super middleweight prospect Peter Quillin won a wide but reportedly boring decision over Fernando Zuniga. Again, I expect SK to give us a full account, but here is FightNews' brief recounting.
  • Over on Fox Sports, Brandon Rios won the duel of lightweight prospects by reportedly pouncing on Jorge Teron and stopping him in the 3rd round. Also, junior featherweight Tomas Villa won by disqualification over Juan Ruiz in the 10th and final round for some strange-sounding reason, per the link above.
  • In a rematch, flyweight Daiki Kameda outpointed Denkaosen Koawichit to take his strap. Jorge Solis had a successful move up to junior lightweight, recovering from a 3rd round knockdown to stop Likar Ramos in the 7th and take an interim title belt. One long KO streak ended Saturday. Canadian middleweight prospect David Lemieux didn't get a knockout in his 21st fight, but he rather dominated Jason Naugler on the scorecards -- 100-89 on all three.


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Valero versus JMM
written by Al Aldave, February 07, 2010
Valero versus Juan Manuel Marquez would be a good fight for the sport of boxing. JMM would be an acid test for Valero. Let's see if his brawling style would be effective against JMM. Fight could be held in Mexico and be covered by showtime or HBO. I just hope bob arum would consider this fight.
Tim Starks
@al adave
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
As a Juan Manuel Marquez fan, I didn't have the heart to bring him up; I think Valero would probably rip him to shreds. But I can write it off to Marquez saying he's determined to fight at 140 these days.
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pacman vs. valero
written by erniepep, February 07, 2010
Valero is fast and powerful puncher with a record of 27 fights all 27 by Kos. Valero always ambitions of fighting Pacman which is not bad considering an immeasurable monetary gains he will get out of fighting Pacman and the fight will surely be explosive. The only difference is weight. If he fights Pacman at lightweight, he stands a chance, however, if he fights Pacman at his current weight, his dream will be a bad dream as he will end up in dreamland.
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written by boxing fan, February 07, 2010
Why not Valero vs. Soto? Soto was there at the fight and witnessed Valero devoured DeMarco. Maybe after Soto saw what Valero did to DM, no disrespect to Soto, he wouldn't wana get in the ring with Valero. Boxing world, here comes Valero "Dinamita"!
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written by Benjie, February 07, 2010
Hey Tim, you still think Pacquiao is afraid of Marquez?
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written by Benjie, February 07, 2010
JMM vs Valero would be an all out war just like what happened with JMM vs Diaz. You'll see a fight of the Year candidate for that one also.
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Stay Lightweight
written by perry ayos, February 07, 2010
Stay lightweight for a while and clean up the division thoroughly in all alphabet sanctioning bodies before climbing up higher. Then one day you'll wake up on the TOP 3 P4P. But you have to fight in U.S. to achieve that.
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written by Benjie, February 07, 2010
If your boy JMM loses at 140, i bet he goes back at 135 or retire. Wait, he said Pacquiao is still afraid at him just like what you said before
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written by richard Obama, February 07, 2010
maybe Valero is also on steroids.....common!!!why don't you accuse him?he got a lot of power like Pacman...but he is perfect at 27 wins with 27 KO that's why Valero is on steroids,not Pacman.
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I REFER YOU BACK TO DONAIRE/DARCHINYAN FIGHT
written by blogista, February 07, 2010
sorry to say but tony demarco lost the fight even before they stepped inside the ring just like in all valero's previous fights. it soon became obvious that he was psyched out badly by valero's vaunted heavy left hand, that's all he worried about all night, thus forgetting to throw punches himself. you just cannot come to a fight with that mindset because the other guy will eat your lunch every single time.

if you check back the donaire/darchinyan fight introductions, watch nonito's contemptuous demeanor towards darchinyan (who had a menacing record up to that point) as he grits his teeth, nodding his head and you can almost hear him say "i'm going to fvck you up tough guy" and sure enough at the sound of the bell, nonito started attacking vic. that's the template you use against valero.

i predict edwin will soon suffer his first losses by a guy who employs this template first. you cannot be debilitated by fear because you can hit just as hard and as often.
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written by JB, February 07, 2010
Wow, if I'm not in last place, I would be surprised. After watching the fight, I am doing a 180 on Valero. The dude can box! Color me impressed. Along with the featherweights, the lightweights are suddenly looking like a division to watch over the next couple years.

And Benjie, if you are looking to be annoying, it's working. Congratulations for joining the thousands of other Filipinos who troll around boxing websites adding absolutely nothing positive to the discussion.
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FACE OFF
written by alexandr hermann, February 07, 2010
VALERO VS. KATSIDIS - You'll get your money's worth.
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written by boxmeister, February 07, 2010
Im willing to bet that if Valero becomes legitimate to fight in the U.S., DLH and Schaeffer will be there to greet him with a suitcase full of American dollars to entice him to join their promotions. Then if he bites the bait, he will be randomly blood tested because in GBP mentality, they consider Valero out of the ordinary and is a suspect cheater. If Valero is smart, he will avoid GBP at all costs. But then again, I might be wrong, because they singled out Pacman and Pacman is the only cheater in their moronic minds.
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All at War
written by JJM, February 07, 2010
try to put JMM before the PAC @ 147 lbs.
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@JB
written by Siegfred, February 07, 2010
JB you fucking racist. It's the 21st century dude, that kind of thing it ain't cool these days. You're way behind the times. Try to hit some updates.
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written by Irvin Ryan =), February 07, 2010
@Benjie
For sure Tim will not even buckle. You know why? THAT's WEAK!

@Topic

Valero with that performance got him on my radar. But I think it's more of De marco's shortcomings that he looked good than expected.
The Katsidis suggestion is good. He can try Humberto Soto too and Maidana (oh boy fireworks!!!)
So we got him with a fighter w/ a good skill set but lacked focus and willpower...
Now I want him vs someone who's mentally tough... David Diaz, Michael Katsidis and yeah Funeka (if he can still make weight)

The telecast team sucks!!! I know there are shades of Pac in Valero but I kinda heard it like a million times in that broadcast!
1. Valero has a better right than Pac at that stage
2. Pac has busier and lighter feet
3. Both are southpaws, but WTH? a lot are southpaws!
4. Pac never breathe like that thru his mouth, Valero looks like he is running on fumes since the beginning.

The really valid comparison is that valero and pac both have ridiculous tattoos!
I think valero lunging forward with his head and hands dangling low makes him more like Don Flamenco not Pac.
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@siegfred
written by JB, February 07, 2010
I fail to see how my comment is rascist. There are a lot of very good posts made by Filipinos (IR for instance), but there are also a lot of trolls out there from the Philippines as well. Pacland is full of them, and Benjie is one of them. If you are not familiar with the term, a troll is someone who posts extraneous or off-topic messages with the primary intent of disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Tim Starks
@benjie
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
You ask me the same question every other week, and I answer you every fucking time. You ask me that question again, and you'll be banned. It's clear at this point you're more interested in harassment than being a productive member of society, and I just don't see a need to look at your face/baby face combo any more if you're going to be such a dick.

Understood?
Tim Starks
@erniepep
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
As good as Valero looked tonight, I think Pacquiao kills him at any weight.
Tim Starks
@boxing fan
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
I'd love to see Valero-Soto, but that fight has been talked about for what seems like forever and it still hasn't happened. I've gotten tired of waiting for it.
Tim Starks
@perry ayos
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
I'm fine with him cleaning out lightweight. I like it when fighters comprehensively beat everyone in their division before moving up. It doesn't happen much these days.
Tim Starks
@richard Obama
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
I haven't accused anyone of being on steroids, so I don't see why I should start now.
Tim Starks
@blogista
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
I don't think DeMarco was that psyched out. I just think he couldn't connect on Valero and that made him less likely to throw.
Tim Starks
@jb
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
I think lightweight is slightly less intriguing for the fact that Valero is so clearly the best guy in the division. Featherweight has more parity.

Sorry you got called a racist by some moron. If you want me to delete him, just say the word, but you handled yourself just fine there. People can fuck with me all they want but I don't like people fucking with others who visit this site.
Tim Starks
@alexandr hermann
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
That we would.
Tim Starks
@boxmeister
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
Quite the elaborate scenario.
Tim Starks
@Siegfred
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
JB isn't a racist. He's telling the truth. Some Filipinos DO troll around the internet, calling names and taunting and so on and so forth. If you haven't noticed that, I'm not sure what's wrong with your eyes.
Tim Starks
@ir
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
DeMarco did look a little lost.

I'm with you. There are some valid comparisons between Pacquiao and Valero, but the broadcast team way overdid it. Gus Johnson is increasingly working my nerves.
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written by cesar montano, February 07, 2010
valero does provide the same excitement, and maybe more power than pacquiao. but his skills is much less polished and he does not have pacquiao's speed and superior athleticism.


http://www.sportzhypeboxing.com/2010/02/edwin-valero-from-underground-legend-to.html
Tim Starks
@cesar montano
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
Right. Valero may -- and I say MAY -- be more powerful with a single punch, but there's not a single other thing he does as well as Pacquiao. Pacquiao is significantly more entertaining in my opinion.
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Valero Insticts
written by RoWyN, February 07, 2010
You mentioned how Valero has nice reflexes and that is right to the point. His movement, although nowhere near to gracefulness, reminds me of Emmanuel Augustus. The biggest difference are the thuds on his left and rights. His power is not the one-punch power you see in a rocky juarez. He has, something similar to pacquiao's, a nice set of power punches in both fists. They also resemble each others ability to dodge punches with the smallest movement and counter with a nice volume of power punches.

This is the fight that tests Demarco. Either he uses this loss to improve his craft or allow himself to get overshadowed in his division.
Tim Starks
@rowyn
written by Tim Starks, February 07, 2010
I disagree in a sense. DeMarco stood up to Valero's one-punch power, and I think that proved he has an amazing chin. But Valero really ended Pitalua with one punch, even though he got up and had to be knocked down a couple more times before the finish. In other words: Valero's one-punch power is very, very real.
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written by JB, February 07, 2010
Tim - I am not sure if Valero rules lightweight as easy as you think, but if Arum is to be believed, Valero will be moving directly to light welterweight. The Venezuelan would be a welcome addition to a division already stacked with guys who can really bang.
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written by severuck, February 08, 2010
agree with most of the comments here about valero showing us skills we didn't know he had... just wanna add something to this conversation though. referee laurence cole did a good job. i mean, he called the accidental elbow well, separated the clinches in the rare times they happened, gave appropriate warnings, and mostly stayed out of the way. if he's the ref for the pacquiao-clottey fight, things are looking good
Tim Starks
@jb
written by Tim Starks, February 08, 2010
Yup. Valero's addition makes the division jam-packed.
Tim Starks
@severuck
written by Tim Starks, February 08, 2010
I look at it more like a sign of the impending apocalypse. But you're right -- Cole, I can say, DID do a good job.
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written by Burbank Baker, February 08, 2010
I have to admit, Valero did get my attention. His offense was more varied, his combinations sharp, and his defense was... well... I had no idea he had any. El Inca looked very, very good. But I have to remember that De Marco is someone who, really, didn't seem that far past "prospect" status, someone who's definitely a solid fighter, but not someone who's really a major player in the division. I don't mean to take anything away from Valero, but I saw no tactical adjustment from De Marco, no commitment to a set game plan. Those who've said that he looked "lost" are right. And see, he doesn't have enough athleticism to get by without a great gameplan and he basically gave away the advantages he had coming into the fight by crouching and throwing the jab only intermittently. Hell, his height and reach are the best things he's got going for him -- he should use them. But perhaps the one thing about De Marco that stood out to me more than anything was his demeanor going in. Unusually loose for someone in the biggest fight of his young career. What's up with that?

I'm still not completely sold on Edwin. I'm no fan of his, but I sure am glad we've got him around, if that makes sense.

I wouldn't count out old vet JMM against Edwin, bro. As good as Valero looked, I still think he's cruder than Pacquiao was in his 2nd fight with JMM. And there are still some glaring flaws in Valero's style: chin way up, hands way low, mouth open, lunging. I don't find it hard to imagine Marquez pulling out perhaps one of his last great performance against the Venezuelan dynamo.

Personally, I would rather see Valero cut a swath of destruction through the division: Katsidis, Juan Diaz, Soto, then JMM. Then he can head up to 140.

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