Moment To Shine: Edwin Valero - Antonio DeMarco Preview And Prediction
Written by Tim Starks   
Wednesday, 03 February 2010 00:29

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Comes now the major U.S. television debut of Edwin Valero, the electric lightweight who's the biggest puncher in the sport today but has gobs of flaws and a messy life outside the ring. Even though it's his opponent Saturday, Antonio DeMarco, that Showtime has nurtured, make no mistake that Valero is the focal point of the night. How can he not be? Just check out that Charlie Manson look in his eye. Watch how his foes react when he connects on one of his quick, wild, thudding shots. Observe the arrogance with which he carries himself in the ring, the passion he exhibits when he scores a knockout, as he's done in all 26 of his fights. There are Valero believers and there are Valero skeptics and people like me who are somewhere in between, but he has commodities that give him big star potential, if he can even out the considerable potholes and uneven pavement in the road ahead.

DeMarco hopes to be a mighty big pothole for Valero. He's got his own path to popularity, like the chance to become the Mexican boxing hero that he'd likely become if he beat Valero. The 24-year-old really only recently graduated from prospect to contender, and just a couple fights ago, when it was clear he was lining up as a mandatory challenger for Valero's alphabet title belt, the idea of him beating Valero was outlandish at best. But over the course of his last three fights, DeMarco has matured from pure brawler to tentative boxer-puncher to something like a fully realized version of himself.

It's remarkable we even arrived at this point, given Valero's troubles. In the United States, he can only fight in Texas because of a brain injury he suffered in a motorcycle accident long ago that left him medically unfit to do battle in states other than Texas (although Nevada may reconsider due to some regulatory changes there). Then he went and earned himself a DUI when he was here, and that prevented him from getting a visa -- although his promoter, Bob Arum, says that he's sought treatment and that should clear up his visa woes. In between, he's had weird allegations of assault against his mother -- he denies them -- and he's espoused weird theories like saying his visa woes were related to his love of his president, Hugo Chavez, whose mug is tattooed on his chest. Turns out the way around it was that Valero-DeMarco is happening in Mexico.

In the ring, he has gifts that cannot be denied. Early on, his gaudy KO rate was the result of him not fighting much of anyone, but he's stepped up the competition and the gaudiness continues unabated. His first top-notch opponent was Vicente Mosquera, ranked #4 at junior lightweight by Ring magazine the year before they fought, and he went life and death with him. Mosquera decked Valero, which was a bad sign for him considering Mosquera's not a huge puncher, but Valero got up and showed heart to stop Mosquera late, which was a good sign. That was 2006. Last year, he knocked out fellow KO artist Antonio Pitalua in two rounds. Those are the two best opponents of his career, and Pitalua was ranked #7 by Ring at the time, so he's only beaten one really decent lightweight -- and even then, Pitalua really only had one quality win at the time. That makes the #9-ranked but promising DeMarco one of the three best opponents of Valero039;s career, and you wonder if he wouldn't be further along without all the messiness, given that he's been a YouTube sensation for most of a pro career than began in 2002.

Besides his obvious consciousness-erasing specialty, and besides speed that's in the upper range of elite boxers, he does some other things well. He is pretty good at controlling distance, and he has good reflexes, so he never got hit cleanly by Pitalua for a test of his chin. It's an important point. If Mosquera could rattle Valero, it stands to reason someone else could. And while he's so offensive-minded his opponents are more concerned with getting out of the way than firing back, he's awfully vulnerable when he's on the attack. Valero makes no pretenses to tuck his chin down whatsoever. He comes in with his head straight up. And he's wild as Bill Donovan with his punches, which leaves him all the more open. They border on slaps. He gets away with both tendencies because he's so overwhelming and because he has such natural explosiveness that he can hurt you with even poorly-thrown shots. He's become more disciplined over the years, even working in a nice jab to the body in his repertoire, but I notice in equal parts when I watch him fight how dynamic he is and how vulnerable he is.

Like Valero, DeMarco is a southpaw, which adds a dimension of difficulty to fighting both men. DeMarco's height also makes him difficult. At 5'10" and with a 72" reach, he'll have advantages in both categories over the 5'7", 69"-reach Valero. He doesn't hit as hard as Valero, but nobody does. DeMarco hits plenty hard, with 17 KOs in 23 wins. His knockouts are usually the result of accumulated damage, but he does have one-punch power. He'll knock down or wobble an opponent with one punch. Valero has power in both hands; so does DeMarco. He's a converted southpaw, so his right hook is his favorite weapon, but his straight left is potent as well. He controls distance more by stepping back or to the side than with his jab, a most important punch for a tall fighter, but he worked it better in his last fight against Jose Alfaro than he had in the past.

If you go back four fights in DeMarco's career, you'll find a completely different fighter than the one who fought Alfaro. He was all about standing and trading. Against Almazbek "Kid Diamond" Raiymkulov, he was patient to a fault, but it was clear he'd recognized that Kid Diamond was a real puncher, and standing around and swapping punches with him would be unwise. Against Anges Adjaho, he also was patient to a fault, giving away rounds just as he had against Kid Diamond before closing the show. Against Alfaro, he was fighting in a patient, measured style, but winning, too. And then he closed the show. The proper balance between boxing smartly and being aggressive eliminated some of DeMarco's problems, but he still has some problems. His speed is in the "good" category, more like a C+ among top fighters than Valero's solid A, A-. He's sharpened up his defense, but he still gets hit a fair amount more than he'll want to against Valero, often getting tagged when retreating after throwing a long punch that misses. And his chin has held up to the tests presented to it, but it's still a little bit of an unknown, given his inexperience -- and inexperience is another knock on him.

I imagine the fighter who beats Valero will be a skilled counterpuncher with power who matches or exceeds him in speed. Valero wants Manny Pacquiao some day sooner rather than later, and while I wouldn't be surprised if Valero is the heavier hitter of the two men should that day come (Valero, according to his biggest advocate Ring writer Doug Fischer, says Valero KOs Urbano Antillon in sparring and Pacquiao doesn't), I would pick Pacquiao to demolish Valero. I don't think Valero quite deserves his #1 ranking by Ring based on his accomplishments, but I do think he's the guy I'd probably pick to beat all the other lightweights right now. That obviously foreshadows my prediction. There's a part of me that thinks DeMarco has the stuff to beat Valero, but I think that part of me is the part that likes the kid, who comes across as personable and passionate and has grown immensely as a fighter. I think DeMarco probably has the power to hurt Valero, and I think his size could present problems. I think DeMarco can counterpunch a little, which gives him opportunities to catch Valero. But mainly I think Valero's going to be zipping in on him, closing distance quickly, and at times trapping DeMarco against the ropes, where he gets a lot of hurting business done.

I bet DeMarco makes a fight out of it, but if he makes it out of the 8th, I'll be surprised.

(Reminder: The preview and prediction game is in effect for this one, too, because it says "preview and prediction" above. You have to have your prediction in place by Friday at 11:59. And don't forget to have your prediction in place for Glen Johnson-Yusaf Mack by 11:59 Thursday. These reminders won't keep coming forever, so get in the habit, playas. And please don't forget the rules [like making sure your name is the same as last time].)



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I predict .....
written by angrypeople, February 03, 2010
Valero TKO10
Tim Starks
Little Cole predicts
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
8th round KO for Valero

(Just trying to follow my own rules)
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Prediction
written by ALEXMAC, February 03, 2010
Valero KO9
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Hehe .....
written by angrypeople, February 03, 2010
At the rate were going, all rounds will be covered under a Valero TKO. smilies/grin.gif
cNcEDDIE
cNcEDDIE predicts:
written by cNcEDDIE, February 03, 2010
Demarco 12SD
YUP . . . Demarco
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P J Prediction King
written by P J, February 03, 2010
Valero KO8
I follow boxing fairly closely and when I checked these guys records I didn't recognise a single name. So this is close to a guess. But Valero is the name and has a punch. I don't drink the cool aid until someone has fought an opponent at least reputedly good. I often wonder how modern era boxers can have a 30 fight career without even bumping into a decent opponent. Sometimes with multiple title reigns.
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Pacquiao vs Valero
written by PacquiaovsClottey, February 03, 2010
I want to see Edwin Valero fight against the P4P king Manny Pacquiao. Maybe after Edwin Valero's fight with DeMarco, we could see this action taking place.

http://www.pacquiaovsclottey.com
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valero
written by doubletangoromeo, February 03, 2010
while on paper it may seem impressive, valero has yet to face a fighter who has the skills level of JMM, he must be over the moon if paquiao gives him a shot...smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/cheesy.gif
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written by JJF, February 03, 2010
I think DeMarco is a slick boxer. I bet him to win the fight, Unanimously.
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dream fight
written by rp, February 03, 2010
erik morales vs edwin valero should be an exciting fight, wbc lightweight on the line
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written by juan pedro, February 03, 2010
valero who?
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A classic boxer vs puncher match
written by Irvin Ryan =), February 03, 2010
I used to pick the power punchers... But I was impressed by de Marco when he faced Kid Diamond who once was talk of the town. Is de marco that good or Kid diamond just a bust?

I like De Marco if he don't fight stupidly like he did in his last outing.

PI joe picks the semi-proven commodity who has shades of Juan Manuel Marquez. De Marco by tko10
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written by JB, February 03, 2010
DeMarco by KO7. I am in the camp who thinks Valero is overrated and will have his "Darchinyan moment" sooner rather than later. It's coming, and I will stick out my neck and say DeMarco will be the one to do it.
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written by Pacquiao Live Streaming, February 03, 2010
I am really salivating for a Pacquiao - Valero fight. I hope to see it soon!
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No chance for Manny Pacquiao
written by Bacangoy, February 03, 2010
Valero vs Pacquiao won't happen.
After Clottey, Manny's next opponent will be either Mosley or Mayweather. After that Pacquiao will resign and will shift to POLITICS.
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@JB
written by Irvin Ryan =), February 03, 2010
OT : I added you on YM, I was at the Viloria fight.
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written by Floyd, February 03, 2010
He's way too overrated. He hasn't proven anything yet.
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written by wacky, February 03, 2010
if you fight manny pacquiao,,,,,pacquiao will kill you and pacquiao is too much for valero..think it first b4 u fight manny ok?
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ent To Shine: Edwin Valero - Antonio DeMarco Preview And Prediction
written by THNDR, February 03, 2010
Nobody can beat this guy. He is an Alien Hybrid. Look at his eyes. They got no reflection.
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Ferrari vs Daewoo
written by Danny Montezon, February 03, 2010
Valero is no match if ever he fight Pacquio he's to open when he attack, look at Pacquia vs Cotto, do you think Valero has a chance to beat Cotto if ever they will meet in the ring? Maybe he's a big puncher but he lack the skill in the highest level of the sport which is not his level yet.
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written by myk.., February 03, 2010
if pacquiao ducked an opponent..it was Edwin Valero.
I think when team pacquiao said no to valero fight, they did not only see less pay but also a high risk fight.

that was before..before pacquiao fought ODLH..but w/ pacquiao's form now? I don't think valero will last longer than hatton.

I think valero should prove himself against JMM before he desrves a piece of pacquiao.
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written by myk.., February 03, 2010
26 is still 26, ko is still a ko..and having them both is perfect..no matter what or who..and valero never say no to any opponent..he even dared to call pacquiao..All he need is a big break.

fight against JMM or Hatton( if he'll back in the ring) would be a must see one.
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need 10 tune-ups
written by blue4cor, February 03, 2010
Valero will lose his star potential status if he fights Pacquiao. He needs 10 more tune up fights to fight Pac.
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Fish Hook Combo predicts
written by Florencior, February 03, 2010
Demarco - TKO10

I've seen some of the fights of valero and though he has tons of pop in his punches, a tall and rangy fighter could just stick his arm out and valero would run his head into it. That's how forward-happy fighter he is. Demarco has the reach to cause troubles for valero and with most of valero's viewable on YouTube, I wouldn't be surprised if demarco's team comes up with a solid gameplan to counter valero's movement. The x-factor here would be the fear of a fighter. If Demarco comes in there feeling like 90% of valero's previous opponents, then we already know the result, same as the others. But I have a confidence in Demarco in that regard, Mexican blood has to count for something right?
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written by willfrank, February 03, 2010
Unlike his Venezulean mate Lineras, I have never jumped on the Valero train. He strikes me as pretty one dimensional, and the guy who stands up to him will puncture his reputation forever. Plus, as you note Tim, his reputation has been made over guys who really aren't the most impressive competition in the world.

While Valero is wearing the black hat, DeMarco is just the opposite, the self described "kid with a dream". I really like DeMarco. But, having seen his last 3 fights, I'm not completely sold on him either-- especially the middle fight against Agnes which he was losing and seemed confused before Agnes inexplicably melted down (moreso than Demarco "winning" it). Is the chameleon-like approach to each fight strategy or a sign that he is unsure of what he is in the ring? I may not be a Valero fan, but one thing I do know is that the guy who takes him out must know exactly what he is doing in there and then execute. Any hint of uncertainty, and I think DeMarco will be early roadkill, much like Pitalua. To his credit, he's been talking a good fight leading up to this.

Will DeMarco be Valero's Salgado? It says here yes. It may be my heart trumping my head, but I say that DeMarco wins by KO in the 9th. And Chavez will weep and thereafter seek to nationalize Top Rank.
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written by BigMaxy, February 03, 2010
Valero KO 5
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written by Paul Kelly, February 03, 2010
Valero TKO 8
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The Bridgewater Slaughterhouse predicts...
written by Scott Kraus, February 03, 2010
Valero KO 4

Great analysis, Tim. I was once enthralled with Valero and I'm not necessarily off the bandwagon but his faults are glaring and not really going anywhere. Count me in the middle with you. Still, I don't see Tony as the guy to knock him off his run. Like you said, his jab just isn't good enough to keep Valero at bay and I don't think his chin will hold up to Valero's heavy hands.

Guys, the talk of Valero fighting Pacquiao needs to stop. Now. Reason #238201928 why I hate Bob Arum, he plants these ridiculous ideas and people take them seriously. Valero, in my eyes, would have to take down a group like Ali Funeka, JM Marquez, Tim Bradley, Amir Khan and a welter like Cintron or Clottey before he would earn a shot at Manny. Nobody knows who he is. He's a lightweight and Manny is a welter. He is currently licensed to fight in exactly one state in the US. He brings no money to the table. His best wins are Antonio Pitalua and Vicente Mosquera. Manny isn't ducking him or afraid, the guy simply hasn't earned a shot. Fighting Manny Pacquiao is boxing's version of the Super Bowl, and you don't get to the Super Bowl by beating a couple of decent college teams.

Frankly, the guy I really want to see him in there with is Katsidis because that has FOTY written all over it.
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Jose Reyes tells the story
written by Unifythebelts (Dan P.), February 03, 2010
Antonio Pitalua faced Edwin Valero in April and was turned into Jello-legs because of the obscene power of Valero. Everyone who didn't follow either guy said "Pitalua's record is BS", but those who did said "Pitalua has been in 45+ fights and the only other time he was stopped was in 1995 when he was a young prospect taking his first big step up in competition. Pitalua avenged that loss and never again lost a fight inside the distance...until Valero hit him with a left hook WHILE RETREATING and destroyed his equilibrium.

That KO could have been the end for Pitalua, but then he faced granite-chinned Jose Reyes and hit him with one of the most potent KO punches of the year. Reyes went down like a pile of bricks and ended his career-long streak without being stopped. For comparison's sake, DeMarco faced Reyes just 11 months earlier and barely won a split decision. Sure he's fought three times since then and stopped all three guys, but two of them are feather-fisted (50% KO rates) and the other is highly stoppable (3 times in just 29 fights), so the competition isn't as stiff as it seems.

Valero has handed 4 of his last 7 opponents their first stoppage loss, and handed the other his first in 14 years. I'm figuring that he'll do the same to the promising DeMarco, not because Antonio is a bad fighter, but because Valero's that powerful.

Prediction: Valero KO 5.

No matter what, I'm psyched for fight night!
No mention of the stellar undercard fight, Gutierrez-Abregu?
Also, any word on TV or internet stream of Estrada-Adamek?
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warning!
written by richard Obama, February 03, 2010
i would just like to warn Edwin Valero to be careful with his perfect record because sooner or later,he will also be accused of using PED because of his tremendous power.take note of his record,26 wins-26 by way of KO,19 of them in just 1st round..Remeber this,mr Valero is not an American like Pacquiao so he has no right to be on topr of the boxing world.
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written by Arthur Billette, February 03, 2010
Edwin Valero KO 9
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prediction
written by stickfigure, February 03, 2010
DeMarco ko 7

Since I was in last place the last time around, I think I speak with some credibility haha. But I just think Valero is too sloppy. I am hoping for a Donaire-Darchinyan type comeuppance...but hey I unfortunately always bet with my heart and not my head oh well..
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Knees Up Neville Brown predicts
written by Dobbler, February 03, 2010
Valero Rd 6
Tim Starks
@utb
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
Here's the way I usually do this each week:

The biggest fight (or fights) of the week gets its own preview/prediction entry.

Later in the week, either in the Quick Jabs column or in a separate blog entry, I give a "Rest of the week" rundown, including TV info.

So -- tomorrow morning, expect something on all that stuff. (Adamek-Estrada will be on GoFightLive, for instance.)
Tim Starks
@ap
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
Things have evened out a touch, on the Valero/DeMarco split.
Tim Starks
@jjf
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
I think "slick" is an overstatement, but he can box a bit.
Tim Starks
@florencior
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
Good point. I'm not sure how scared of DeMarco Valero is now; I don't think he's scared at all, really. Seems like a confident kid.

But I think people get scared after they get hit once clean by the guy. If they're still standing.
Tim Starks
@myk
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
Any moderately good pro can knock out 26 people who are in off the street. So "26 KOs" isn't "26 KOs."
Tim Starks
@blue4cor
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
10 tune-up fights? Like, about 40 percent of his career? OK.
Tim Starks
@THNDR
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
I swear I didn't modify that part of tho photo. I cropped it and bumped it up like 14 pixels, and that's how he looks.

Creepy.
Tim Starks
@sk
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
Agreed, on the Super Bowl comparison.
Tim Starks
@richard Obama
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
Are you related to the president? He hasn't come around these parts in a while.
Tim Starks
@stickfigure
written by Tim Starks, February 03, 2010
Glad you're showing the fighting spirit to get out of last place! I hope you weighed in on Johnson-Mack, too...
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Team Monica
written by edub, February 03, 2010
Valero KO round 2. Manny over Ricky style.
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written by DukeShadeBlue, February 03, 2010
After my extensive YouTube research, I'll take Charlie Manson by tko in 5, I mean valero
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Team Spidershark takes...
written by Spidershark, February 03, 2010
Valero TKO 3.

Great article Tim.
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Valero will get stopped...
written by Pretty Toney, February 03, 2010
But not by this boy.

Valero by KO5
Tim Starks
@team spidershark
written by Tim Starks, February 04, 2010
Thanks. That means a lot coming from our eerily prescient points leader. smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Cardscott5, February 04, 2010
Valero TKO 5. Even though there are 12 rounds, this has a 1 in 12,000 chance of happening because I predicted it.
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My Prediction:
written by Eugene Dammrod, February 04, 2010
The Queensberry Fools predicts:

Antonio DeMarco TKO9
Jay Ari Yin
Not Sure picks:
written by Jay Ari Yin, February 04, 2010
Antonio DeMarco wins by Unanimous Decision over Edwin Valero.
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@ Tim
written by Spidershark, February 04, 2010
Hey Tim, don't be too creeped out, even by my doubly intimidating team name. I think a while back you described the various types of readers you have and as unflattering as it may be, I probably fit into the "lurker" category. Despite my passive participation style, I greatly enjoy the boxing community you have created and frequent your site multiple times a day. Finding people as compelled by the sport of boxing as myself here in the middle of the Midwest is not an easy task. Thanks for your seemingly tireless work.
Tim Starks
@spidershark
written by Tim Starks, February 04, 2010
Do whatever makes you feel comfortable, SS. I didn't mean "lurker" to have such a negative connotation -- it's just the industry slang. But if you feel like participating more, all the better. Just know that if you continue to be "The Man" in the prediction pool, I'll have no choice but to keep talking to you.

Thanks so much for the kind words. Fellow Midwesterner, by the way -- I'm from Indiana. GO COLTS!
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written by fadein2bolivian, February 04, 2010
Valero TKO8
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written by Andrew Harrison, February 04, 2010
Gerodie Dancer

Valero KO 4
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written by Andrew Harrison, February 04, 2010
Or Geordie Dancer even.....ahem.......TAXI!!!
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written by mekiko, February 04, 2010
valero vs katsidis would be like hagler hearns.. i do agree valero would clean his division.. the weightclass isnt as stack.. JMM would be the toughest, but valero will beat him because of age, marquez is slipping fast, a prime marquez will toy him.. i love valero, he is exciting and what boxing needs.. he beats demarco within six hpefully im wrong coz i wanna see valero on some deep water lets see how tough he is.. i cant understand how people can say he got a chance on P4P king... the guy hasnt fought elite.. PACMAN WILL KILL HIM
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Donkey Punch
written by BrianMcNeeley, February 04, 2010
DeMarco TKO 11
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Always Wrong predicts ....
written by RoWyN, February 05, 2010
Valero KO RD8

- DeMarco gets hit too much, decent beard but IDK if can hold against a Valero assault. In fairness, he has a good chance to counter and rock Valero. However, I stand by my prediction.
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Laserpunch
written by Laserpunch, February 05, 2010
Valero vs Pacquiao would be great... I want to see another ricky hatton...Big puncher no defense, BOOM!!! and down he goes
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written by David Schraub, February 05, 2010
Valero KO7
beccapooka
Prediction
written by beccapooka, February 05, 2010
I don't think I predicted for this one yet...

DeMarco KO 10
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Valero vs DeMarco
written by PacquiaoVsClottey, February 23, 2010
I am in the camp who thinks Valero is overrated and will have his "Darchinyan moment" sooner rather than later. It's coming, and I will stick out my neck and say DeMarco will be the one to do it. I often wonder how modern era boxers can have a 30 fight career without even bumping into a decent opponent. Sometimes with multiple title reigns.

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